Tuesday, May 31, 2005

panta ta ethne: ...neither male nor female...you are all one in Christ Jesus...

panta ta ethne: ...neither male nor female...you are all one in Christ Jesus...

another very thoughtful seminarian blog. (thanks, kevin, for pointing me to it.) i like her measured approach to her topics. for those wanting less rant and more reason, check her out.

7 comments:

Pastor John said...

I just wanted to say that it matters not what the Professor says. I always thought that the Bible was the final authority on who does what in and for the church. If He (God) has changed, we need to toss the good book right? Why have an authority and then leave the critical things to a few biased people who after two thoousand years deem it necessary to change for the sake of modern societies. Let me say this; God is not in the metamorphasis business of a culture that no longer deems His authenticity. Males alone for the pastorate. It is as plain as that.

ding said...

it's funny how saying that a woman can hear the call of God suddenly means we doubt the authenticity of God.

that's not it at all. we have faith in the authenticity of God - that God calls those who will serve, regardless of gender.

unless, of course, i'm mistaking the nature of God and He's really into penises and vaginas like the rest of us.

Wasp Jerky said...
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Wasp Jerky said...

"Males alone for the pastorate. It is as plain as that."

Funny, I missed that verse. Perhaps you can point it out? Is it somewhere towards the back?

It's interesting though. When I was growing up fundie, I was always told that the gift of prophesy really meant preaching. And yet there are women prophets in the Bible. The Bible seems to have a lot of contradictions when you read it the way the fundies do.

ding said...

maybe it's because we women are like the B team. only good when there aren't capable men around...

i'm still baffled at what a person's gender has to do with how they listen to God and serve God. does God speak differently to men than to women? is the word different to us? if not, if the word is to be applied equally between us, then what's the deal?

Wasp Jerky said...

Women may be the B team the past couple of centuries. But it wasn't always that way. Women in colonial America did their fair share of preaching.

LutheranChik said...

I remember the segment on "60 Minutes" many years ago with a Sister Thea -- I can't recall her last name; she was an African-American adult convert to Roman Catholicism who became a nun; her preaching skills were so outstanding that she actually wound up teaching proclamation at a Catholic seminary; and she preached in Catholic parishes. But she couldn't call it preaching. "I just give talks," she said, with a twinkle in her eye.

As wonderfully subversive as her attitude was...why do we have to live in a world where women are forced to put up with this sort of crap -- where they have to create legal fictions about what they're doing in order to serve the Church in the way they have obviously been called by God? It's ridiculous. And I'm happy to be in a church where I don't have to do that.