tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post114702271910032783..comments2023-07-25T08:58:50.067-05:00Comments on ChurchGal: the hypocrite housewifeDelia Christinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1148244686402220732006-05-21T15:51:00.000-05:002006-05-21T15:51:00.000-05:00good grief - where have i been? this housewife st...good grief - where have i been? this housewife stuff is right up my middle-class alley! :)<BR/>my thoughts:<BR/>i don't believe there is a "normal" housewife scenario ~ there are different situations in most family dynamics to allow a mother/woman to stay home, so what exactly is "normal"?<BR/>i have never watched an episode of oprah. couldn't tell you what channel she's on nor what time. butAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147410454578448062006-05-12T00:07:00.000-05:002006-05-12T00:07:00.000-05:00a-ha!i knew it.we're all just our subject position...a-ha!<BR/>i knew it.<BR/><BR/>we're all just our subject positions...Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147408696856839312006-05-11T23:38:00.000-05:002006-05-11T23:38:00.000-05:00Thanks for the honesty!Orpah- She longs secretly ...Thanks for the honesty!<BR/><BR/>Orpah- She longs secretly to be a teacher, stay at home mom, and yes, even "Jesus". But she can't, so she lives her life through others.<BR/><BR/>Joy- <BR/>who is not feeling guilty for being able to afford expensive shoes and clothes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147394425054747552006-05-11T19:40:00.000-05:002006-05-11T19:40:00.000-05:00and so here's my honesty:i have 'help'. every mon...and so here's my honesty:<BR/><BR/>i have 'help'. every month, a little cleaning lady comes by my house and cleans it. she scrubs my bathroom, the floors, loads the dishwasher, dusts every surface, and i love it. i wish my sister had a cleaning lady. it makes things so much easier. i participate in this economic exchange because i know that i can. (though not to the level that flanagan can, Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147393752397446652006-05-11T19:29:00.000-05:002006-05-11T19:29:00.000-05:00oh, and i really appreciate this discussion, joy. ...oh, and i really appreciate this discussion, joy. i really do. we see things very differently, but you're making me think, too!Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147393656097902532006-05-11T19:27:00.000-05:002006-05-11T19:27:00.000-05:00she's like oprah. (get ready; this is a long anal...she's like oprah. (get ready; this is a long analogy.)<BR/><BR/>think about oprah. mega-rich, extremely culturally powerful- when she says she wants to catch child molesters, those child molesters are caught-and not exactly living a lifestyle that any of us understand.<BR/><BR/>yet, she has fashioned herself into the near-perfect substitute for every suburban, stay-at-home mother in america. Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147382923898865662006-05-11T16:28:00.000-05:002006-05-11T16:28:00.000-05:00You think she is imposing and assuming all women a...You think she is imposing and assuming all women are like her? Let me go back and read her articles again. I'll be back. <BR/><BR/>The issue was, that Flanagan felt that her party, the Democrats were not accepting her because she didn't fit in there mind set. She is too much like the other side, that was it, correct?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Her faults:<BR/><BR/>She is well-off, she works out of her home Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147373408654747132006-05-11T13:50:00.000-05:002006-05-11T13:50:00.000-05:00guilt as punishment doesn't work for me. that's w...guilt as punishment doesn't work for me. that's what popular culture wants us to do - to feel guilty for how we order our lives.<BR/><BR/>i just want us to be more aware of the different privileges we all carry so that we don't start assuming that other people have those same privileges. do i want flanagan to dump her kids at home and go to an office to work all day?<BR/><BR/>no. but i want Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147371779832056772006-05-11T13:22:00.000-05:002006-05-11T13:22:00.000-05:00So a woman who is well-off should feel guilty bein...So a woman who is well-off should feel guilty being a stay at home mom? Maybe she doesn't struggle in her finance as those who do stay home who are not well off, but should she be made to feel guilty because of her "class privalages"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147303215145368482006-05-10T18:20:00.000-05:002006-05-10T18:20:00.000-05:00i don't mean to sound harsh, but yeah - that's nai...i don't mean to sound harsh, but yeah - that's naive. and that's exactly what i'm saying: opting out is only an option for those women who can afford to do so comfortably. <BR/><BR/>(we're not talking about women who've never been in the workforce, but women who were in fast-track jobs and then chose to stay home with their kids.) <BR/><BR/>their comfort derives from a material and social Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147298565255135402006-05-10T17:02:00.000-05:002006-05-10T17:02:00.000-05:00Maybe I being naive here, Maybe?you said "who can ...Maybe I being naive here, Maybe?<BR/><BR/>you said "who can afford to opt out"<BR/>well, that depends on how and why your doing it? <BR/>Are you only applying that the rich and wealthy can only opt out? <BR/><BR/>You also said "what are the material consequenses for opting out? Once again, is it about the material, opting out?<BR/><BR/>Maybe in the cultures or community you mentioned, primarly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147291709400198362006-05-10T15:08:00.000-05:002006-05-10T15:08:00.000-05:00joy, i actually don't have anything against flanag...joy, i actually don't have anything against flanagan or housewives. this isn't a personal beef that i'm waging, here.<BR/><BR/>what i'm trying to talk about is cultural discourse - the discourse *around* what defines 'traditional housewife' and what enables our culture to perpetuate these pointless Mommy Wars, pitting working women against non-working women, when our interests should be allied.Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147284787897122402006-05-10T13:13:00.000-05:002006-05-10T13:13:00.000-05:00Do you have a problem with her or housewives in ge...Do you have a problem with her or housewives in general, Just curious.<BR/>If a woman can maintain a job by working at home so she could be near her children, regardless if she is privilage to have a nanny, so what! Mrs. Flanagan likes the traditional role of being a woman at home. The trend now is that a lot of educated women are coming home to work. Why? Remember that article written in the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147231988272857712006-05-09T22:33:00.000-05:002006-05-09T22:33:00.000-05:00let's do a little exegesis.the whole premise of he...let's do a little exegesis.<BR/><BR/>the whole premise of her book, and every article she's ever written, has been that 'traditional' 1950s-style housewives got it right. this is the model she's putting out there. so let's ask ourselves is she really the typical housewife?<BR/><BR/>ok. how many nannies does the average housewife have? how many book deals does the average housewife have Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1147227528545469112006-05-09T21:18:00.000-05:002006-05-09T21:18:00.000-05:00Okay she makes money while staying at home. She is...Okay she makes money while staying at home. She is still a housewife. Maybe not in the traditional sense of the 50's,but she chose to be at home, near her children. She is not playing victim, she is saying she is an odd ball to her party. <BR/> Th Democratic party does not always look favorably on the housewife role- its too Republican. The Democratic party is not into traditional family values Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com