tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post114488624891785460..comments2023-07-25T08:58:50.067-05:00Comments on ChurchGal: my dad and i talk about poverty and jesusDelia Christinahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1146502547094987432006-05-01T11:55:00.000-05:002006-05-01T11:55:00.000-05:00"This is an historic moment, I am hopeful the figh..."This is an historic moment, I am hopeful the fighting will not go on for long. We have in the last year made great progress in ending the long era of conflict and cold war. We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future gen-erations A NEW WORLD ORDER where the rule of law governs the conduct of the NATIONS".--In 1991, at the beginning of the Gulf war, US President GeorgeVerlchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04989352803382447267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1146029396947177762006-04-26T00:29:00.000-05:002006-04-26T00:29:00.000-05:00'the esoterics and implications' - what my dad cal...'the esoterics and implications' - what my dad calls doctrine. i often wonder what modern american christianity would look like if we just went back to the fundamentals - the sacraments and the greatest commandment to love our neighbors as ourselves.Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1145914690346852152006-04-24T16:38:00.000-05:002006-04-24T16:38:00.000-05:00interesting discussions - I recall a scripture des...interesting discussions - I recall a scripture describing "true" religion as the caring for orphans and Widows. In context those were the poorest of the poor. And contetually again, Christ ministered primarily to the non-rich - Today the modern Christian seems more concerned with esoterics and implications than reflecting the grace that "while we were yet sinners" was given to us who are truly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1145322563244450052006-04-17T20:09:00.000-05:002006-04-17T20:09:00.000-05:00I think it's so great that you and your dad can ha...I think it's so great that you and your dad can have these kinds of conversations. My father and I were at both theological and political opposites, and we couldn't talk about Big Issues without it turning into A Yelling Thing.LutheranChikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02685566332651377907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1145113042655221842006-04-15T09:57:00.000-05:002006-04-15T09:57:00.000-05:00my dad and i got to this point only through the cr...my dad and i got to this point only through the crucible of two bush administrations - it's an effort.<BR/><BR/>when i think about jesus, and like jp i've been doing a lot of thinking this week (because it's Holy Week, probably), i've been thinking that the nature of jesus is so ineffable that the use of him to support every progressive social ideal is probably a bit, uh, hasty.<BR/><BR/>jesus, Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1145060118713043572006-04-14T19:15:00.000-05:002006-04-14T19:15:00.000-05:00I'll add to the chorus: I'm glad you have these k...I'll add to the chorus: I'm glad you have these kind of conversations with your dad on a civil level. The tone your father takes with you evidences that he has a great love and respect for you, if not an agreement.<BR/><BR/>Something I think I agree with your father on is the idea that it's sort of vulgar to use Jesus as a social platform. While for sure my own views on most social issues haveMolly Malonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03603687188519209897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1145027878100769382006-04-14T10:17:00.000-05:002006-04-14T10:17:00.000-05:00ding, I'm really glad that you posted this. I t...ding, I'm really glad that you posted this. I thought that I was the only person who, in love, because exacerbated by trying to discuss theology with their fathers.<BR/><BR/>My dad says, "Yes, I agree that we are to help the poor, but why would we give the money to the government to do it? Shouldn't we be organizing church directed health insurance and welfare?" At which point I say, "Sure, Cygnethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667015213544482584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1144999947022337442006-04-14T02:32:00.000-05:002006-04-14T02:32:00.000-05:00jp, i totally love you.but it's after 2 am and i'l...jp, i totally love you.<BR/>but it's after 2 am and i'll respond to this tomorrow.<BR/><BR/>but i went to Maundy Thursday service tonight and cried my ass off. it was really moving. like, viscerally moving.<BR/><BR/>(reading back through jesus' conversations? yeah, they were creepy. illuminating, but you can't deny the creepiness.)Delia Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00433503510087047283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1144992030934112962006-04-14T00:20:00.000-05:002006-04-14T00:20:00.000-05:00Sorry, this post has been making me crazy all week...Sorry, this post has been making me crazy all week. <BR/><BR/>Jesus doesn't say "help the poor," but He does tell us to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, and to visit the imprisoned. Well, ok, He doesn't so much tell us to do those things, rather that if we don't, we'll burn in a fiery gehenna. <BR/><BR/>And when Jesus says "the poor will always be with us," when I read it, it says that jp 吉平https://www.blogger.com/profile/15198270192000552582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6864616.post-1144890145321254572006-04-12T20:02:00.000-05:002006-04-12T20:02:00.000-05:00Jesus does call us to poverty, right? A call that...Jesus does call us to poverty, right? A call that is challenging, even heatbreaking for the rich man. <BR/><BR/>Someone once told me to look at poverty as the opposite of materialism. That, I can handle.jp 吉平https://www.blogger.com/profile/15198270192000552582noreply@blogger.com